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‘You Out of Your F***ing Mind?’: Trump WH Lawyer Describes John Eastman’s Call After Jan 6

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In the aftermath of January 6, Donald Trump’s legal adviser John Eastman, who was a central player in Donald Trump’s quest to stay in power, called White House lawyer Eric Herschmann to discuss something related to Trump’s efforts to overturn the election results. Herschmann told the January 6 committee that he rebuked Eastman, telling him: “Are you out of your f***ing mind?”

According to a deposition for the House Select Committee ahead of Thursday’s hearing, Herschmann said that Eastman called him on January 7, 2021, trying to reach someone in Trump’s circle to discuss an issue related to the election.

“I don’t remember why he called me,” Herschmann said. “He started asking me something about dealing with Georgia and preserving something potentially for appeal.”

“I said to him, ‘are you out of your f***ing mind?’ right. I said, “I only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on—orderly transition.'”

“I don’t want to hear any other f***ing words coming out of your mouth, no matter what, other than ‘orderly transition.’ Repeat those words to me,” he said.

Asked how Eastman replied, Herschmann said that “eventually” he repeated the words.

Herschmann then told the committee he advised Eastman that the “best free legal advice you’re ever getting in your life,” is to “get a great f***ing criminal defense lawyer, you’re going to need it.”

“Then I hung up on him,” Herschmann added.

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