Former President Donald Trump lashed out and berated his rape accuser E. Jean Carroll in a freewheeling deposition last October, which a federal judge partially unsealed for the first time late on Friday, Law & Crime reports.
“I know nothing about her, I think she’s sick, mentally sick,” Trump said of Carroll.
The former president referred to the famed columnist as a “nut job,” and doubled down on the same rape denials that inspired Carroll’s defamation suit, saying once again she’s “not my type,” the website reported, citing the deposition.
“I will tell you I made that statement, and I said, while it’s politically incorrect, she’s not my type,” Trump said. “And that’s 100 percent true. She’s not my type.”
“You’re a Disgrace,” Trump told Carroll’s lawyer. “You’re a political operative also.”
As noted by Law & Crime, “Carroll has two active lawsuits pending against Trump over allegations that he raped her in a dressing room of a Bergdorf Goodman store in the mid-1990s. One accuses him of defaming her through his denials, and the other confronts the sexual assault allegations directly through New York’s Adult Survivors Act. Both Trump and Carroll sat for depositions late last year.”
During his time on the hot seat, Trump was questioned by Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan, who has faced off against the former president on behalf of multiple clients. She also represented niece Mary Trump and plaintiffs who sued Trump and his family for allegedly promoting a pyramid scheme on Celebrity Apprentice.
“You’re a political operative also,” Trump told Carroll’s lawyer. “You’re a disgrace”
Trump also argued that he’s immune from defamation suits for any statements he made while he was president, and insisted that he doesn’t know Carroll.
“I don’t know this woman, have no idea who she is, other than it seems she got a picture of me many years ago, with her husband, shaking my hand on a reception line at a celebrity charity event. She completely made up a story that I met her at the doors of this crowded New York City Department Store and, within minutes, ‘swooned’ her,” Trump wrote.
In the deposition, Trump spelled out the euphemism.
“That would be a word, maybe accurate or not, having do with talking to her and talking her — to do an act that she said happened, which didn’t happen. And it’s a nicer word than the word that starts with an F, and this would be a word that I used because I thought it would be inappropriate to use the other word,” he said. “And it didn’t happen.”
When Carroll’s lawyer pressed whether he meant “sexual intercourse,” Trump replied: “Yeah. That’s because that’s what she said.”
The full deposition has not yet been unsealed, but the unsealed portion of the deposition was attached as an exhibit to one of Carroll’s filings.
A trial has been scheduled for April.
Read the deposition excerpt below, via Law & Crime:
