‘I’m Just Reporting the Facts!’: Steve Doocy Shuts Down Brian Kilmeade As They Spar Over Whether Trump is ‘Toast’

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The hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Friday engaged in a heated debate regarding the potential legal consequences faced by former President Trump after he was indicted for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, leading to the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack by his supporters.

During the segment, Steve Doocy referred to comments made by former Trump lawyer Ty Cobb on CNN, who asserted that the evidence against Trump is “overwhelming,” and that the former president is is in real trouble.

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“Now, here’s the problem with that,” Doocy said. “Ty Cobb, who actually was employed by Donald Trump during the Mueller investigation, he was one of Trump’s lawyers, said that he tweeted this or he put this on Facebook. He said there will be evidence from several witnesses in this case that Donald Trump knew he lost. He said ‘I lost.’ And then Ty Cobb goes on to say it’s going to be a D.C. jury. And this is the last line of Ty Cobb. He said, ‘Donald Trump, he’s toast.’”

However, co-host Brian Kilmeade countered by pointing out that many people around Trump, in both casual and serious conversations, continuously heard him claim victory in the election. Kilmeade questioned the relevance of statements by a few individuals who claimed that Trump privately admitted his defeat, considering the overwhelming number of people who heard him assert otherwise.

“Think about everybody around Trump in in casual conversation, in serious conversation on tour and beyond, will that go five seconds without him saying he won the election? He was down Sean Hannity’s throat for not defending him,” Kilmeade said.

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“Brian, what I said was ,Ty Cobb said they have several people who were told by Trump, ‘I know I lost,’” Doocy shot back.

Kilmeade interjected, saying: “Who cares what Ty Cobb says?”

“Brian, I’m just reporting the facts!,” Doocy said.

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According to legal experts, prosecutors will need to prove Trump’s state of mind, showing that he knew he had lost the election but still attempted to overturn the results, to secure a conviction.

Trump, who is currently the leading contender for the GOP nomination for the 2024 presidential election, has pleaded not guilty to the four felony charges in federal court and has consistently labeled the investigations against him as politically motivated.

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